Two Sides of the Table

A podcast designed for MSPs and IT business owners looking to scale, solve challenges, and stay ahead.

Episodes

Jan 5, 2026

42 min

Lucas Meadowcroft, CEO of Crofti, joins Kayla and Peter to share his journey from running an MSP to building an AI automation business. This episode dives into what it takes to commercialise AI, why the traditional MSP model is shifting, and how to move from reactive support to strategic consulting.
 

Jan 5, 2026

42 min

Dec 2, 2025

43 min

Brendan Gibson, CEO of Aspired, joins the table to talk about transparency, trust and the changing role of the MSP.
From how to have better customer conversations to what the MSP of the future might look like, this episode is packed with insights for service providers navigating change.

Dec 2, 2025

43 min

Nov 18, 2025

42 min

Kayla and Peter are joined by Braden Voigt, CEO of Lynkz, to talk all things AI, innovation and partnerships. Braden shares how Lynkz is driving real ROI with AI, why so many projects fail, and what it takes to promote true innovation in tech.

Nov 18, 2025

42 min

Nov 4, 2025

43 min

Darren Rath, founder of Corp IT, joins us to talk about building a security-first IT business, navigating rapid growth, and leading with values. From choosing the right clients to creating a culture of trust, this episode covers what it takes to grow a sustainable MSP.

Nov 4, 2025

43 min

Oct 21, 2025

34 min

David Mitchell joins us on the podcast to share how he stepped into the CEO role at Grassroots IT, why co-leadership works, and what it takes to evolve beyond the traditional MSP model.
We also talk AI, burnout, hybrid work, and why getting out of the weeds is easier said than done.

Oct 21, 2025

34 min

Oct 7, 2025

45 min

Mark Andersen, founder of Andersen IT, joins Two Sides of the Table to talk about building trust with clients, growing through professional services, and challenging the traditional MSP sales model.

Oct 7, 2025

45 min

Sep 23, 2025

41 min

In this episode of Two Sides of the Table, guest Paul Mangano unpacks what it means to lead an MSP in a market shaped by rising customer expectations, evolving technology and AI.

Sep 23, 2025

41 min

Sep 9, 2025

42 min

In this episode, we’re joined by Ashley Knowles to talk about what it takes to grow an MSP in today’s environment. From building partnerships to getting in front of your ideal customer, we explore what is working and what to leave behind.

Sep 9, 2025

42 min

Jul 22, 2025

32 min

Kayla and Peter explore how MSPs can stay competitive by embracing new technologies, adapting to shifting customer expectations, and avoiding burnout. From AI tools to business mindset, this episode is all about building long-term resilience.

Jul 22, 2025

32 min

Jul 8, 2025

44 min

In this episode, Kayla and Peter unpack what financial health really means for MSPs. From managing margins and customer concentration to tracking the right metrics and paying yourself properly, they share practical strategies to improve profitability and build long-term stability.

Jul 8, 2025

44 min

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